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Ratchet
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one other thing you forgot about when mentioning sleeping in the engine room. if somebody does invade your ship then your behind the thickest door with the biggest lock and a lot of crawl space to hide in ^_^
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If you're awake when they invade (think 'Objects in Space' - I think that's the episode with Jubal Early isn't it?)
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Gonner Hendershot
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Yes it is.
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Tillymint
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| Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Chaplain wrote: | | If you're awake when they invade (think 'Objects in Space' - I think that's the episode with Jubal Early isn't it?) |
"Am I a lion?"
Oh, I love those drawings, Jeff, they totally rule! Are they all your own work? You deserve *clapping*.
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Jeff Milhaven
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| Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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The firefly floorplan was something I found on the net. All the other floorplans are modified from that, all the ship schematics are modified from ship designs I found floating around on the net, and all the deck-layouts (side views) are modified from a Wheedon design sketch for the firefly decks.
That would be me indulging in my photoshop obsession while at work again 
Glad you like 'em.
Here's hoping the Refs like them enough to make them serenity-lrp canon...
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You wanna do some work on a Chariot ? make em all look the same style .. just in case-like (besides, I think basedon what Jon said, the Chariot's gonna me a tad more cramped than the one I put up.)
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Jeff Milhaven
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| Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 11:48 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, no worries.
You want one the same shape? It doesn't look... fast enough... to me.
Or did you want one of these...
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| Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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Hoah! mama!
Looks very ... military.
Tasty though.
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Jeff Milhaven
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Take one part Firefly, two parts Pod-Racer and two parts Cylon Interceptor. Add photoshop and shake for an hour...
How do you mean 'looks military'? Is it the sensor cluster (Chariots are supposed to have kick-ass sensors)? Or the general lines?
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It's the front view, it just looks ... menacing. The sort of thing you really don't wanna see in your rear view mirror. 
I think I just imagined something a little sleeker, with bigger engines ... to much start trek is all
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Jeff Milhaven
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Bigger engines?!?
Each of those two bad-boys are twice the size of a firefly pulse-engine!
See what you mean about menace, I'll have a play...
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Jeff Milhaven
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Updated the Chariot schematic. New look has a single veiwport instead of the evil cylon 'frowning' dual veiwports.
And here are some deckplans...
It's a damn small ship. On the same scaling as the rest, I could only squeeze in 6 bunks. You could double-stack the bunks that have rooms to get another two guys in.
Or have the mechanic sling a hammock in one of the engine rooms, and curtain off one of the common rooms and stick a bed in there...
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Looks very very sweet mate.
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Sol
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Two engine rooms (plus two hamocks)
two shuttle ports (potentialy two large-ish quaters)
Sooo shotgun to sleep in a shuttle (going Inarra on you guys)
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Jeff Milhaven
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Chariots have spacious shuttles? Heh, I'd be surprised if they even *had* shuttles.
Grasshopper -
(deck plans to follow)
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Jeff Milhaven
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Grasshopper decks.
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I like the deckplan for the Chariot...cramped, that'll be fun to be stuck in with Raymund...
Unsure about the outside though, too many greebles for my personal tastes.
It does however make me think of a pod racer, which is interesting because that was an influence I'd been mulling over.
For the Barracuda I'd reffer to Serenity Part 1 (Hanging under the cruiser), Bushwacked (again hanging under the cruiser and swarming aroud it) and espechially The Message (the ship the Marshals use to chase Serenity.)
There are a few lighter fighter and corvettes in Serenity, mostly in the background during the big battle (a steady freeze frame can isolate a few.) Though you can work out you own alliance stuuf based on that with I-War 2 and Homeworld 2 for referance and stylistic influance, ie clean lines, rounded off angles.
And I still can't work out what the heck the Londinium class was doing in the the ship list...
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Jon
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Londinium class was in the list for perspective, it's best not to think to much into it. Actually thats good advice for a lot of things we do.
Love the Grasshopper, ace, although I now can't get the theme tune out of my head. ^_^
Am returning to Norwich for the weekend on Friday, I'll try and pin down Andrew so we can get these designs given the thumbs up. Although getting the final numbers slotted into the downtime system is the current priority.
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Lily
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| Sol wrote: | Two engine rooms (plus two hamocks)
two shuttle ports (potentialy two large-ish quaters)
Sooo shotgun to sleep in a shuttle (going Inarra on you guys) |
Ain't nothing wrong with sleeping in a hammock, as I said!
Very very sweet ship, Jeff (you are the MAN for design!)
Ahhh ships... they rule.
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Keeper
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Right, I guess I'd better start wading into the discussion...
To start with, a note on the published weights - by the 'official' mechanics published in the Serenity RPG, the weights listed in the BSC are the total weight of the ship and a full load of cargo - effectively the maximum load that the ship's engines can move at the listed speed. Different ships have a different cargo-to-ship ratio - off the top of my head, the Firefly class carries about 40% of its total mass as cargo, whilst the Titan fills 80% of its weight with cargo. Whether or not these numbers make sense, I'm not entirely sure, but that's the official line - which means that if a decent argument is made for throwing those weights out the window, I'm fine with that.
And now onto the ships - note that I do have 'designs' (read: vague images in my head), but nothing that currently constitutes canon.
Starting with the most extreme, the Londinium class is included because I felt like statting up the massive carrier seen in the big battle in Serenity (if you look behind the Operative's ship as the camera pans out to show the whole fleet, you'll see a huge, huge ship. That's the Londinium) and seeing how it fit into the overall system. It, like the other ships in the list, suffers from being apparently underweight, but there's plenty of good technobabble to fix that.
At the other extreme, the Barracuda is intended as little more than a fighter - it's got a cockpit, some guns and an engine. The deck plan is more suited to a corvette class, which is probably three times the size of the Barracuda, and about half to two-thirds the size of the Marshall's ship in The Message.
The Huntress design looks pretty good, though it is again a bit large internally, and the original ship is more aero-dynamic, with the side engine pods being attached directly to the hull and the wings protuding from those pods. Granted, the internal capacity can be justified as the ship doesn't have the cargo capacity of a Firefly, but it also has a fair amount more armour plating - though I'm willing to be fairly flexible with regards to deck-plans, as a lot of space is freed up by removing the weapons systems.
The deck-plan for the Chariot is spot on, really very good, and the design looks great, though the original concept has the engines sticking out the back as in Nocturne's design.
The Titan also matches up very well, though the cargo bays are a touch bigger, what with occupying 80% of the total mass of the ship.
Actually, the only design I really have issue with is the Grasshopper, given that the name is actually born of the ship's unusual appearance. The main cargo area is a large cuboid structure, with a cockpit slapped on the front, an engine sticking out the back, and a massive, double-jointed leg on either side - in a fashion much reminiscient of a grasshopper, really.
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