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| Which version of event 4 do you think you are most likely to attend? |
| Combat heavy version (aka: hit by reavers?) |
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21% |
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| Social/Combat light version (aka: a normal event) |
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52% |
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| Niether, I don't like the idea of a split event... |
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26% |
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Lee Shaw
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| Shikoba wrote: | | I actually play what is essentially an social combat character. In fact I think that distinctions applies to the majority of players. |
I suspect the distinction is less about whether the characters could hold their own in the given situation (and as has been mentioned it can be immense fun playing a social retard at the ball or a pacifist in a firefight), but more whether they would be there. If the "combat" event has a setup like "Planet Worksop is under seige by gangers! We need heavily armed people to fight them off, big cash prizes!" then the crews of some of the more mercantile-oriented or dilettante-style crews would struggle to find a reason to attend, effectively excluding them. Even people who can handle themselves in a fight may be loath to walk into one.
That's a pretty big assumption on my part, though, and comes mostly from reading this thread.
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JennyScott
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| Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, but I think that the idea that most people are unhappy with is the assumption that you won't miss out if you don't attend one of the games.
As characters, that is absolutely true. Jenny doesn't want to fight reavers, ever. However, as roleplayers we come to Serenity to have fun, and I usually have more fun when my characters have a bloody awful time of it 
If they split the event, I as a character will be much happier, as there will be less chance of having my face eaten by space monsters. As a player however I'll be unhappy to miss a chance (any chance!) to play Serenity with all of my friends. I'd rather play a game with all of the other players in the same place at the same time, and if that means that Jenny gets her face eaten, that's just hard cheese for her. I will want to play the event whatever kind of event it is, and I'll want all of my friends and enemies to be there!
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Shikoba
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| Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Lee Shaw wrote: | | I suspect the distinction is less about whether the characters could hold their own in the given situation (and as has been mentioned it can be immense fun playing a social retard at the ball or a pacifist in a firefight), but more whether they would be there. |
Then my example still applies. There are a lot of characters who are in fact combat characters who would probbaly rather avoid a fight but if it comes down to it and they need the cash well folks have to do what they must. Just because they're not wondering around heavily armed yelling, "we're up for a fight" doesn't mean they are not willing to have one nor does it mean the players don't want to be involved.
I think msot folks agree the best thing about Serenity is the players and role playing with those other players as their characters.
| Jon wrote: | | That hurts, a lot. |
I'm sorry it really wasn't meant to and no one believes it was designed to exclude players, but only perhaps that it had not been realised how much it would.
I do feel that due to the refing format the refs are missing the atmosphere and interaction of the game and as such missing out on a lot of the fun of it themselves. It's very easy to overlook aspects of the game the players really enjoy when there is no direct ref involvement, and social interaction rarely requires a ref to be there.
I think most ref teams have suffered from this at some point or another.
I really do think it's worth each ref taking a break taking a name, an accent and going and seeing where the party is. I know we had a tent full of gunsharks and friends all happily socilaising IC until 4am and it was one of the best parts of the weekends. all refs and of duty monsters are welcome to join us as a shikoba buddy and come and have fun.
| Jon wrote: | | Noted, losing my gloves early on Friday evening proved a little inconvienient given the weather. |
You should have said, we had spares.
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Jon
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| Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Shikoba wrote: | | I do feel that due to the refing format the refs are missing the atmosphere and interaction of the game and as such missing out on a lot of the fun of it themselves. |
It's a good point and certainly a major factor in why I'm still burnt out two weeks later. We seem to run the games we want to play and play games the way we want them run, I'm looking forward to a 2009 season where I can potentially play an event but know I'd spend most of it in the ref hut feeding back on encounters and issuing orders.
As for 2008, once I actually get an evening where I'm not exhausted and covered in mud from our current attempts at digging a foundation trench below the water table, I'll be on the phone to the sites we've got our eyes on and post dates asap.
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Shikoba
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| Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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Hmm winter mud, all mud is annoying but winter mud even mroe so.
Pleae do take time out of what ever event you are running to get involved int eh social side of it We've all run foul of that when running games as it's easy to get caught up in the admin side of things but it is just as important to go out and see what the players are actually doing and even more so to take time out and go and role play. It's your hobby as well and the players enjoy having refs role play just as much as anyone else.
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Grace
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now you see I haven't put anything in the poll as you haven't given an option for both if its possible. Also I'm going to agree with Heather here. I suspect that most people would think the gunsharks would go to the combat heavy event , and not a socialising event, cos that is what we appear to be, a combat group, firstly not all of us are - we cover most types of people from gunbunnies to non-com specialists. Whilst we may appear to take jobs that are high risk shooty things, and we often do, we are not suicidal and we also enjoy r & r as much as anyone else, as our behaviour at the last event can testify to. A lot of what we enjoy is roleplaying with everyone else and not having to organise anything cos most of us do at the other games we play. So whilst we would probably go to a high combat event it would be as much to play the game and see everyone else as it would be to get us some shhoting in. We would also want to go to the social event cos thats fun toa, as we said to Jon at the end of last event.
I am not speaking for all the gunsharks here as some may disagree with me but this is my opinion on it all. Shooting is fun but so are all the other parts of the game. Going somewhere on a suicide mission is certainly not on Grace's agenda.
Tash
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Jarhead
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| Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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I suppose it is the fact that we are playing a game that needs balancing for the different abilities of characters (and interest of players) in combat that has provoked all this discussion, but it always seems to me that if you are any kind of adventurer then trouble will find you whether you want it to or not.
My character is definitely non-combatant: no armour, no weapon, no clue how to use one if he did, so would almost certainly come out the loser in any arse-kicking contest - but that's what gunsharks are for, to protect people like me from people like them..
I wouldn't willingly walk into a situation that would get me killed but you don't always get dealt the cards you want.
And if I had to I'd grab the biggest gun I could find and start blasting...
I wouldn't avoid an event just because it threatened to be comabt heavy, but I would need a reason for my character to be there - whether I knew that a fight was going to happen or not.
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Broz
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Well there may be groups who can provide protective services.
Some may even be able to both on the Mud and in the Black, should the koor ve'vut be good and tight...
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Prince
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| Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 11:36 am Post subject: |
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| Grace wrote: |
I am not speaking for all the gunsharks here as some may disagree with me but this is my opinion on it all. Shooting is fun but so are all the other parts of the game. Going somewhere on a suicide mission is certainly not on Grace's agenda.
Tash |
Really? Dang, suicide missions are awesome...
My 2p is that I really don't mind if there's a split event (high combat vs high social) or not.
What I do really want is for the next event to be high combat, so I can really get my gun on and the Gunshark gunbunnies can have some high-wire thrills - but whether attendance at this kind of event would preclude attendance at an IC concurrent high social event doesn't bother me. I wouldn't feel I was missing out. Equally, if the events are arranged IC consecutively so that attendance at both can be done, that's fine.
Just so long as there's a high combat event in the immediate future, I'm all kinds of happy
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Grace
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| Prince wrote: |
Really? Dang, suicide missions are awesome...
Minty |
Excellent, next time we get involved in gunfights you can go first then  .
Tash xx
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Earl
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| Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Grace wrote: | | Prince wrote: |
Really? Dang, suicide missions are awesome...
Minty |
Excellent, next time we get involved in gunfights you can go first then .
Tash xx |
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JennyScott
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I've been looking at my calendar for 2008 and I 'd like to change my vote...
I'll be attending event 4 whatever the heck it is, so long as you don't hold it in June, when there are too many weddings 
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Kix
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| Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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I'll go to whatever, but would like to see two events (one of each) and this is for one reason and one reason alone at that is: I will have more chance of get the time off work to attend at lest one of them. Being a shift worker the later the dates are fixed, the less chance I have of making it!
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